Is One Mirror Legal?

[Bobby Drake]

Title speaks for itself...my left side mirror lost it's bolts and I've only got one bolt on the other holding that in....so is it legal to ride with just one? I mean, I can still use the one...

[R6SNOB]

you can take both off there is no law that says we HAVE to have mirrors on bikes

[Eviloliv3]

i was about to say ive seen lots of bikes with no mirrors on. Jerry doesnt use em, and i havent heard him talk about getting a ticket for it

[R6SNOB]

2 of my R6's never had mirrors and I've never gotten called on it most cops don't even notice they are not there

[Bobby Drake]

then the other is coming off...don't want it lookin like a retarded bug...

[Eviloliv3]

well i have to note that Jerry was pulled over once, but it was due to the fact that he was wearing womens low cut jeans and was flashing everybody while riding and was cited for indecent public exposure

[R6SNOB]

EWWWWWWW^^^^^^^^^^^^Man-Thong!!!!

[Birdman]

Yes, a mirror is required BY LAW

Section B

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/28/00964.htm&Title=28&DocType=ARS

And yes, one is legal.

[salvador0516]

low cut jeans on men are illegal too

[Blue Devil]

um i got a ticket for having no mirrors.. its a fix it ticket... another female cop thought i was hot though so she tried to seduce me haha

[chico]

Safety Helmet Required by law under age 18
State Funded Rider Ed Available for all eligible applicants
Eye Protection Required by law unless equipped with windscreen
Daytime Use of Headlight Modulating headlight permitted
Passenger Seat Required if carrying a passenger
Passenger Footrest Required if carrying a passenger
Passenger Age Restriction None
Helmet Speakers No Restrictions
Periodic Safety Inspection Required by law-annual emissions, some areas
Mirror Left(L) Right(R) One required by law
Radar Detector No Restriction
Turn Signals Not Required
Muffler Muffler required; no cutout, bypass or similar device (28-955.01, Motorcycles; noise level equipment; unauthorized equipment).
Maximum Sound Level Maximum allowable A-weighted sound levels based on measurements taken at a distance of 50 ft from center lane of travel (R17-4-61. Motorcycle Noise Limits): Model Year/<=35mph/35-45mph/>45mph: Before 1972/84dba/88dba/88dba; 1972-1980/79dba/82dba/86dba; After 1980/76dba/80dba/83dba
State Insurance Requirements Compulsory Liability (Minimum Limits)(15/30/10)
Handlebar Height 28-964C. (http://www.azleg.state.az.us/search/oop/qfullhit.asp?CiWebHitsFile=/ars/28/00964.htm&CiRestriction=motorcycle&CiBeginHilite=<b>&CiEndHilite=</b>&CiHiliteType=Full) Handlebars such that the hands of the operator are not above the operator's shoulder height when the operator is sitting astride the seat and the operator's hands are on the handlebar grips.
Rider-Education Waiver Skill & Knowledge Test
Accept Motorcycle Endorsement From Other States Yes
Accept RiderEd Completion Card From Other States Yes
Motorcycles operating two abreast in same lane Yes. 13 AAC 02.427 (http://www.azleg.state.az.us/search/oop/qfullhit.asp?CiWebHitsFile=/ars/28/00903.htm&CiRestriction=motorcycle&CiBeginHilite=<b>&CiEndHilite=</b>&CiHiliteType=Full) - Driving motorcycles and motor-driven cycles on roadways laned for traffic (a) Motorcycles and motor-driven cycles may be driven upon a lane of a roadway, and no motor vehicle may be driven so as to deprive a motorcycle or motor-driven cycle of the full use of a lane. This provision does not apply to motorcycles or motor-driven cycles driven two abreast in a single lane by consent of both drivers; however, no motorcycles or motor-driven cycles may be driven more than two abreast in a single lane.
Lane Splitting 28-903. Operation of motorcycle on laned roadway; exceptions (http://www.azleg.state.az.us/search/oop/qfullhit.asp?CiWebHitsFile=/ars/28/00903.htm&CiRestriction=motorcycle&CiBeginHilite=<b>&CiEndHilite=</b>&CiHiliteType=Full) B. The operator of a motorcycle shall not overtake and pass in the same lane occupied by the vehicle being overtaken. C. A person shall not operate a motorcycle between the lanes of traffic or between adjacent rows of vehicles.

[R6SNOB]

It's pretty bad when you can go down a list like that and go "check, I've done that" check, that's not done on my bike".
you notice it says nothing about plate placement......hehehehe

[salvador0516]

yeah I think I need to move mine, I got flashed on the 101 last weekend :(

[Jimmy3]

Mirrors are the law. They won't renew your tags without mirrors and you could get a ticket, however, you tell them that someone tip your bike over and the mirror broke. They probably will let you off. Just don't get pulled over by the same cop later on down the road.

[Birdman]

Not to pick on you R6SNOB, but you might want to take a second and read the Arizona Revised Statues Title 28...

AZ Vehicle Law (http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ArizonaRevisedStatutes.asp?Title=28)

Plate specific (http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/28/02354.htm)

Notice - Clearly visible.

[Jimmy3]

Shoot, pick on R6SNOB all day long. We don't mind.

[chico]

It is plate specific but it is enforced based on bike. I have never seen or heard of a cruiser/chopper getting stopped because of plate location. Swing arm plates are done all the time. I have talked to a few sportbike riders that have been stopped and cited for swing arm plates or plates that are not visible. I've been stopped for no rear reflector!

[Birdman]

It is plate specific but it is enforced based on bike. I have never seen or heard of a cruiser/chopper getting stopped because of plate location. Swing arm plates are done all the time. I have talked to a few sportbike riders that have been stopped and cited for swing arm plates or plates that are not visible. I've been stopped for no rear reflector!

I was with a guy on a ride who was stopped on his V-Rod for plate...;)

The plate is usually an excuse to stop you for other reasons. Usually the rider is riding erratic or doing something to draw attention to themselves.

You are correct about chopper however, I have never seen one stopped...

[chico]

At least it is not just sportbikes. Alot of the stops are because of the number of riders without a motorcycle endorsement. I am always surprised when I talk to people that do not have an endorsment. Most are just to lazy to go take the test.

[Jimmy3]

Everyone should get veteran's plates like me. That way, they don't bother you as much.

[salvador0516]

jajajaja I've got the vet plates, I saw some fool with vet plates and a picture of his unit crest stamped in between the numbers

[Birdman]

Honestly you have to be doing something to get an officers attention, they have so much crap they deal with in a day.

I always have to chuckle when I hear someone say "I was just minding my own business and not doing anything." The reality is if they notice you, it was because you brought attention to yourself.

Which is why you can have tons of people say that they have run for years with a plate a certain way or no mirrors without issue....

[chico]

Honestly you have to be doing something to get an officers attention, they have so much crap they deal with in a day.

I always have to chuckle when I hear someone say "I was just minding my own business and not doing anything." The reality is if they notice you, it was because you brought attention to yourself.

Which is why you can have tons of people say that they have run for years with a plate a certain way or no mirrors without issue....

I have to agree with you on that.

But then there are people like me that get pulled over while stopped at a red light next to a cop because I had no mirrors. The day after I took them off. He just rolled down his window and told me to pull over. Funny as hell when I think about it.

[Jimmy3]

my excuse is going to be, "I just got back from Iraq."

[salvador0516]

I heard they have monthly quotas to meet, so at the end of the month they start to really look at stuff to bust you for. kinda like how we wait till teh last min to study for a midterm

[chico]

Monthly quotas are not legal and were thrown out of courts years ago. But the funny thing about that is they still use ticket numbers to see if traffic officers are doing their jobs.

[Jimmy3]

It's a technicality thing then.

[salvador0516]

hahaha maybe that's their way of get'n around it

[Birdman]

Hey, you gotta gauge if somebody is doing their job and ticket count is one way of knowing if they are out on the street or hanging out in QT buying Milk Duds....

[salvador0516]

yeah, but that might envoke certain actions. like waiting for the last min. to make up for all the time lost hanging out at qt.

[357Magnum]

Monthly quotas are not legal and were thrown out of courts years ago. But the funny thing about that is they still use ticket numbers to see if traffic officers are doing their jobs.

Plus, cops that have more tickets for more serious crimes are generally looked at for promotions more. So no, there is no official quota to meet but it looks better the more they have.

[Jimmy3]

Job security. It's cutthroat out there.

[MooseDrool]

my excuse is going to be, "I just got back from Iraq."

i tired this one right after i got back and i still wound up in cuffs in the back of a police car assholes

[Jimmy3]

It was worth a shot.

[salvador0516]

It was worth a shot.
I used that one but that was 3 years ago, back then everone supported the war, now it might work against you

[06Gixxer King]

i still wound up in cuffs in the back of a police car assholes

Anybody seeing a pattern here?:umm

[MooseDrool]

Anybody seeing a pattern here?:umm

what r u trying to say