Beware! Adrenaline Performance in mesa!!

[1LDucatiBeater]

FUCK THIS PLACE!!! everyone stay away! very far away! they are thieves!!!

took my bike in for insurance repair. insurance cut him a check for 3400.00 he spent 1800.00 on parts, gave me a check for 600 to order my own body work, and used swing arm. he refuses to refund me the rest of the money, insists i need other repairs that he has to do that would intern cause me to owe him 500 more! that would be a grand total of 3900.00 in repairs!

bike and 80% of the parts are back in my possession, received it back in pieces not running! the bike was complete and ridden in! got the bike back with an open engine! they had removed the case covers and didnt put anything in the engine to keep out dirt and debris!

on top of this he kept 80% of my old parts, wanted to keep my old swing arm and old fairings. my bike went in their shop with a brand new battery, and came out with some old battery that was no good. when i asked them about it i got " you saying we took your battery"

i would advise anyone and everyone to STAY VERY FAR AWAY from them! they are nothing but crooks! they will quote you a price, then tell you when you show up to get it that its several hundred dollars more then originally quoted and not let you take your bike until the difference is paid.

i also have personally witnessed while standing there arguing with them one of their technicians break a camshaft one a customers bike and the owner said "we can take one out of this motor over here and bill the customer for it"


pics of how my bike went in. keep in mind the estimate was 4000 in damage!!!

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n35/SrpowerdSilvia/Crash%20and%20hell%20from%20adrenaline/600rrcrashdamagepics007.jpg
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http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n35/SrpowerdSilvia/Crash%20and%20hell%20from%20adrenaline/600rrcrashdamagepics010.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n35/SrpowerdSilvia/Crash%20and%20hell%20from%20adrenaline/600rrcrashdamagepics004.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n35/SrpowerdSilvia/Crash%20and%20hell%20from%20adrenaline/600rrcrashdamagepics001.jpg


pics of how i got it back- 3.5 weeks later (keep in mind, i installed my rear sets, pc3, and levers while it was at their shop)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n35/SrpowerdSilvia/Crash%20and%20hell%20from%20adrenaline/bikebullshit013.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n35/SrpowerdSilvia/Crash%20and%20hell%20from%20adrenaline/bikebullshit010.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n35/SrpowerdSilvia/Crash%20and%20hell%20from%20adrenaline/bikebullshit007.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n35/SrpowerdSilvia/Crash%20and%20hell%20from%20adrenaline/bikebullshit004.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n35/SrpowerdSilvia/Crash%20and%20hell%20from%20adrenaline/bikebullshit001.jpg

[Decipral]

That sucks. What insurance do you have? I wonder if they can place a hold on the check or void it. Also, I would report them to the Better Business Buruea. I also believe that would be insurance fraud as they are required to provide a detailed print out of the estimate and if it costs more must go through the insurance company.

[07R1ghost]

Whyd you take it in in the first place?

[PHX600RR]

i would've taken the money and fixed it myself. i don't trust anyone at the shops.

[craqhead]

Sorry you had to go through that..

Take it out to the boys at SVC!
They'll take care of you....:nod:

[MaTTMaN]

Whyd you take it in in the first place?

im with him..... you and others have had multiple issues with them prior! only your mistake for continuing to be their customer.

[00Silv4.8]

I've never had a problem.

I thought you fixed everything anyway? why didnt you just do your own work?

[1LDucatiBeater]

i took it there because i knew they worked with insurance companies, and did not know if any of the other shops did. and after talking with Jeremy he said it wouldnt be a problem, but it turned into one. ended up taking the bike because of his attitude and the fact it hadnt been touched in 3.5 weeks, and he feels even though his shop did no work what so ever on the bike that he is entitled to the rest of the money that was billed for labor.

[00Silv4.8]

keep in mind Im staying neutral here...

you did account for labor in that total price he gave you? also got an itemized sheet+prices?

[1LDucatiBeater]

got an itemized sheet for prices on parts, labor, and tax. problem is he did NO 0% labor on the bike.

[M-Six Hundred]

I've known Jeremy out of the motorcycle world for a while... and when it took two months to get a clutch cable. I haven't been back. First time and last time I did business with him. His shop is a mess and I would never leave my bike there over night.

[P0wermad]

I have never personally had an issue either. But I have to say this. I know people who have (including TJ). I just seem to be immune. lol

[Wheeliest]

how else would a bike shop make money with out stealing.

[R6S_2NR]

Yeah Iv heard nothing but bad things about that shop, and they always get the one confuse in Casa Grande, Adrenalin Motorsports in CG is where its at!

[1LDucatiBeater]

so talked to the owner Jeremy on the phone, and he says that he will refund me a "reasonable amount of money", but the amount im asking for *1000.00* (keep in mind i added up everything totaling 1140.00) the amount of parts/labor he did not supply or complete is just "unreasonable" and he will only refund the "reasonable amount" once i return my old body work to him.

[Wheeliest]

why would you need to return your old body work? what bullshit.

[1LDucatiBeater]

why would you need to return your old body work? what bullshit.

because according to him the insurance company paid me for it, and him to change it, therefor its his because i no longer owned it

[TheMans23]

you know, if you really wanted to screw him you could get in contact with your insurance company that tell them whats going on...... it might make it a bigger hassle for you but it would be a pain in his ass

[Wheeliest]

call the insurance company. its your broken parts

[1LDucatiBeater]

you know, if you really wanted to screw him you could get in contact with your insurance company that tell them whats going on...... it might make it a bigger hassle for you but it would be a pain in his ass

did that. my insurance company isnt doing shit because jeremy made me sign the check before he would order parts, so because i signed the check they dont want to do n e thing for me.

[TheMans23]

I would call again, say insurance fraud and see if they jump on that :P and go report him to the BBB

[Mr.Jones]

Lawyer up my friend. There is a charge for that, it is called theft by deception.

[sunburnedaz]

I am not a lawyer but they paided for NEW OEM parts unless specifically directed not too. They do not buy the broken parts from you. They pay for new parts and are not in any way off setting the cost of those parts by crediting you the value of the old parts or anything like that. That is simply not how insurance works, again yours might be different so read the fine print, but when everything is said and done they paid him to remove old parts and put on new parts and they paid for the new parts that were to be put on. No where in there was ownership of parts transferred.

If they totaled the bike and then paid your for it then yes they own the bike and can do what ever they want with it.

Edit: called my insurance agent and he confirmed that what I posted is accurate... at least in my policy

[rjpack74]

As a general rule, the only correct response to a demand to sign a check over is: Goodbye!

Totally sounds like insurance fraud to me.

If they ordered and received parts, you need to pick those up with your old parts as the check you endorsed should have covered those. Any overpayment should be refunded to you, other than their labor to disassemble the bike, and make sure to get itemized receipts showing the payment in full. Once you have that squared away, open your BBB case.

You need to get on that before you let it sit too long.

[1LDucatiBeater]

thats the thing, they didnt do any labor, i did it all. i pulled all my old parts. the only thing they did was tow it in, write the estimate, and order parts.

[LimeBobZX14R]

Adrenalin Motorsports in CG is where its at![/quote]
hey chavez, is randy still runnin the shop out there?

[LimeBobZX14R]

:band:

[azsunsetangel]

Well, here is what I can tell you............

First off, when you signed the check, you gave up the bulk of your rights and technically the shop doesn't have to pay you anything as YOU removed your bike prior to it being finished.
Second, the BBB is not going to do anything as the shop did what they said they were going to do until YOU removed your bike from them. That was your choice.
Third, the shop is correct. Technically your insurance company owns your old parts and they have up to 90 days to claim them. Granted they never do, but technically they own them and if the shop can't supply them should the insurance company require to see them, then the shop gets in trouble.

Don't mean to be a bitch about it but had you listened to the people you asked advice from and took their advice you wouldn't be in this situation. There is also a very good reason why only certain shops are on DR. You should have taken advantage of their support for DR and supported them, unfortunately, you are paying the price for it now.

Your all welcome to disagree with me, but I just went thru this last year when I removed my bike from the dealer. I asked all the rules and all the info I needed prior to removing it and sending it to SVC.

[1LDucatiBeater]

i removed my bike because he no longer wanted to work on it, he said " if you dont like the way im doing it, take it somewhere else." i contacted my insurance company and they told me that i did have the right to remove it and take it somewhere else if i felt the shop was not completing the repairs correctly. they said that any money that they had collected and that was not used to do repairs belonged to me, and needed to be refunded to me. they also told me that the old parts belonged to me, and not the shop, that if i requested my old parts back they had to give them to me.

[hellion_locdogg]

Have any of you filed w BBB? I have, this is what happens. They contact the shop business in question by mail. If said business does not respond, case closed. It's bullshit too because BBB is funded or paid if you will by the palces of "business". The BBB will send about 2-3 letters and then give up.


I vote go down there and braek his fucking knee caps! I still have a place that I want to burn down...

[1LDucatiBeater]

they already have a F rating on BBB.com and have un answered complaints on there so i doubt that will do n e good.

[PHX600RR]

go down there and start handing these out to everyone
http://www.wayodd.com/noindex2/funny-pictures-whup-ass-0C5.jpg

[R6S_2NR]

Adrenalin Motorsports in CG is where its at!
hey chavez, is randy still runnin the shop out there?[/quote]

Yes sir!

[1LDucatiBeater]

well talked to jeremy again today, and was told that before he will talk to me or have anything to say about anything i need to get on here and remove the blatant lies i have posted, because i have embarrassed him, his family, his shop and everyone that goes to his shop by posting lies. and that if i want him to talk to me about anything to do with what i "feel" he does or does not owe me i need to delete this and post a public apology and admit that i lied and that his shop in no way shape or form did me wrong, and that i am completely satisfied with him, his shop and the work they do.

well i dont know what part of my experience i lied about, but i guess i would tell everyone it was lies too to keep people from boycotting my business and to keep ripping people off.

as far as all this goes, its been one hell of a learning experience. ive learned you cant trush shops, weather they are dealers, or small independent shops. if i have another instance where i have to use a shop for anything there will be a way different way i go about everything with them. believe me this is not over, i will continue to fight this, and make people known about how he does things.

i do however need to apologize about one thing, i originally said he owed me 1000.00 in parts/labor he did not complete, i got both copies of the invoiced he made for this, the one he submitted to my insurance company, and the one he gave me with my bike/parts. after adding up all the parts and labor i did receive from him he only owes me 645.01

i will however say this. if you total all the parts/labor that is on the invoice it totals 4005.37, yet the total parts/labor/tax shown on the bottom of the invoice is only 3380.37. how does that add up??? and to top this off my insurance company only cut him a check for 3388.01, who was going to pay the difference, i sure as hell dont have the extra money laying around to cover that.

so beware people, there is some shady things going on in that shop. i dont know how he manages to make this stuff look how it does on paper, and how he still has customers or is in business. but watch out. dont get taken like i did.

[Wheeliest]

fuck that worthless shop.

[07R1ghost]

fuck that worthless shop.

Haha, perfect Jason.

[M-Six Hundred]

Thread Closed! but we should end it with Jason's Post!

[R6Woodsie]

Funny

[PHX600RR]

jeremy sounds like a douche bag. you should post a pic of him on craigslist and blast him and his chop shop there too

[07R1ghost]

jeremy sounds like a douche bag. you should post a pic of him on craigslist and blast him and his chop shop there too

+1

[Wheeliest]

you should lite his shop on fire.

[Jasonzilla]

And someone was giving me shit for praising Ahwatukee Kawasaki not too long ago. They do great work. I almost took my bike to Adrenaline but am, obviously, glad I didn't now. Tough break.

[ballisticn8]

they werent giving you shit about praising the kawi shop, they were just giving you shit about kawi in general... :62:

[Jasonzilla]

You're just saying that because you ride a Yamaha. If you had a Honda you wouldn't be talking shit.

[357Magnum]

well yeah, he wouldn't have time cuz hed be out in the garage all the time trying to make it look as pretty as a maha :P

[Monster]

they werent giving you shit about praising the kawi shop, they were just giving you shit about kawi in general... :62:



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[kawi636rider]

^^^^^agreed^^^^^

:69::69::69::69::69::69::69::69:

kawi has a hand in most of the bikes on the market.

[357Magnum]

so does batman.

See, I can make ambiguous statements also :P

[1LDucatiBeater]

So got a phone call from Jeremy saying i needed to go to his shop so we could close out things and cash me out.... Go down there, *brought all of my paperwork by the way* and he is his complete asshole self he has been. first thing he says is " i see your selling your fairings for 750.00" and i said they are my fairings, i can do with them what i want since i need the money that your not giving me back. so he says lets go in the back and talk in private (there is no privacy there the office is not closed off)

we start talking and he starts telling me that he was giving me special pricing and what not on the parts, and this and that. to make a long story short he changed prices, took all the labor off, and and only owes me 80.00. now keep in mind i brought all my paperwork. and proved he owes me 500.00. and when i pull it out and show him, i get "well what make you feel like i owe you this, after all the shit you said about my shop" he said that he might be willing to give me 100.00 if i took down the post about his shop and post an apology. but thats it.

but i got him to give me another copy of the recipt so that makes 3 count them 3 different recipts ive got from him, one being the one he submitted to State Farm, and the other 2 that he gave me. the 2 he gave me have totally different prices on almost everything. charging me WAY ABOVE market pricing on parts, so he doesnt have to give me a refund. i will be scanning all 3 invoices tonight when i get home and uploading them for everyone to see!

[Mr.Jones]

Y'know, at some point you're going to need to step back and consider the best route for all practical purposes. Right now you are pissed off at this guy, and rightfully so. Right now he is pissed off at you, and whether or not he is justified does not change that he is pissed off. Unfortunately, he kinda has you by the balls, and the sooner you realize that. the easier it will be to get him to let go. The point is made, we all understand that this shop is in the wrong, what exactly are you going to accomplish by posting these receipts to a thread that he has already expressed frustration about? I understand that he can't tell you what to do, and he has no control over what you do and do not post, but it seems to me that instead of coming back here and stirring up the pot after every contact with him, maybe your time would be better spent working with this guy to come to a resolution. All pride aside, get it taken care of and put an end t o the pissing contest so you won't have to deal with him anymore.

just my $0.02.

[1LDucatiBeater]

i see your point, but he feels that he does not owe the money for what he did not do. he is changing the prices to make it seem like there is no money for him to refund.

[Wheeliest]

i cant believe hes gay and a thief.

[rjpack74]

I agree with Darnell. If you want to do something more, I would contact a consumer advocacy group, and one of the news stations, and see what they can do for you.

It appears this guy doesn't want to give you what you want working with him directly, and has shown that he's vulnerable to bad press (as any shop is particularly in this economy). If you're hell bent on getting what you feel you are owed, make it more public than on here.

[07R1ghost]

i see your point, but he feels that he does not owe the money for what he did not do. he is changing the prices to make it seem like there is no money for him to refund.

Everybody understands that and nobody argues that point, think hes saying we get that its a terrible shop and nobody really needs to see the receipts. I mean, what are you planning on accomplishing by showing us?

[Wheeliest]

i wanna see em so i can print them and have the news paper publish them

[Wheeliest]

i was just browsing the internet and i came across this

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3729/adreno.jpg

[revelations]

i was just browsing the internet and i came across this

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3729/adreno.jpg


HAHAHHAAHA classic

[357Magnum]

Alright, I am going to close this before it gets out of hand. Think everyone has said everything they need to and everyone gets the point. I got a call from Adrenaline the other day and I told Jeremy he was welcome to sign up and refute anything that had been said...but that we didn't delete threads just because people didn't like what was said.

For the record, the one experience I had with Adrenaline was positive and I am pretty sure there is a post about it somewhere. Unfortunately it looks like lots of others didn't go the same way.

TJ, if anything else comes of this; as far as the situation being corrected so that both parties are happy...let me know and I will reopen so you can post that.