Hi Output so far

[ballisticn8]

So this is a review on my experiences with them so far and truth be told I'm kinda pissed with them because i keep getting a run around from them so far...

April 9, 2008: Scott picks bike up for estimate work to be done.

April 16, 2008: Scott calls, estimate complete.

I contact insurance to see if i can do repairs to have check made out to me, fight back and forth with insurance a couple days and get denied due to loan on bike, check has to be issued to a shop and my name.

April 22, 2008: Called Scott, advised him to start work on the bike. Dropped off tail pieces as bike will need repainted, Scott says should be 2 weeks for repairs to be done.

May 1, 2008: Called Scott to make sure insurance delivered check for work. He says no check delivered, that the work on the bike was done and the fairings were sent to be painted.

May 6, 2008: Called Scott about insurance check, busy, says he will call me back.

May 7, 2008: Called Scott again, check there, fairings still at paint.

May 8, 2008: Jerry went by Hi Output to check on the bike and talk to Scott. He is told that the fairings are still at paint and they wont let him look at a bike as it is currently on a lift (anyone else curious why a bike that is fixed and just waiting on the plastics is still on a lift?)

So as of today, May 13th, the bike is a week overdue and the fairings have been at paint for almost 2 weeks, who the f*** takes 2 weeks to paint some fairings? So yeah, i cant review quality of the work yet, but so far my experiences with how i am being dealt with SUCK!!! I tried heading over there yesterday in person to check on what was going on but they had closed even though i was there 15 minutes earlier than the listed close time of 6:00pm, got there at 5:45pm...

[M-Six Hundred]

Estimate = 7 days wtf! Should of been done in two!

Total Time = 1 month 4 days +

I'll never go there!

Sucks Bro! I feel your pain!!!

[R SIC]

who the f*** takes 2 weeks to paint some fairings?

ummm, people that also have other vehicles to paint... i'm gonna guess the guys at hi output know how to do body work? could also be that either a) the paint shop is doing the body work or b) the painter wasn't satisfied with the work hi output did so they had to redo it


just remember, your life is pretty much in their hands, so they're gonna make sure everything is perfect on that, and 1 month to fix a bike like yours (plus all of the other bikes they hvae) isn't really that long...

[ballisticn8]

i get what you're saying mic but he is the one that said it'd take two weeks and this is after he did the estimate and tore it apart. also, if he told me that the bike was complete and just waiting on plastics to be painted why is the bike in a bay on a bike lift?

also, why is he pissed off that the insurance is auditing his work on my bike? he was genuinely pissed when he told me that they were asking him for receipts and wanting to inspect the bike and the parts he is putting on it. fuck, from now on if i need anything done i cant do myself i'll truck it up to chuck and larry or down to a shop my friend goes to down in tucson, at least there they tell you whats going on with your shit and they let you know if its taking them longer than they expect it to take.

[R SIC]

true true, seems kinda weird, but idk the whole story, all i know is i've been out a bike almost as long as you have and it sucks!!!

[GixJello206]

ummm, people that also have other vehicles to paint... i'm gonna guess the guys at hi output know how to do body work? could also be that either a) the paint shop is doing the body work or b) the painter wasn't satisfied with the work hi output did so they had to redo it


just remember, your life is pretty much in their hands, so they're gonna make sure everything is perfect on that, and 1 month to fix a bike like yours (plus all of the other bikes they hvae) isn't really that long... +1 only shady thing I notice is when jerry went to go see is it and they say no. But think about it how long would it have taken it If the bike was in your garage at home hypothetically I know you live in a apt
But I am sure it would have taken longer and If not you would have all of drs help which no one here is tryin to fix other bikes! Either way I hope they hurry so you can get your ish back

My nickle minus 3 pennies

[ballisticn8]

true true, seems kinda weird, but idk the whole story, all i know is i've been out a bike almost as long as you have and it sucks!!!

yeah, i think thats whats pissing me off the most... if he had just said that it would take 3-4 weeks i wouldnt be so anxious you know? not having a bike sucks, espescially when you have a 2nd job lined up just waiting on transportation. i dont want to take the truck and leave my preggo wife stranded at home with our daughter with no way to get anywhere. my bike is a viable form of transportation for me and not having it sucks ass...

thats my rant for now, sorry all...

[KFD]

http://www.stpats.com/images2006/15gallonkeg.jpg +http://www.devil-riders.com/vb/photoplog/images/167/medium/1_DSC_0170.jpg=http://www.kellyscars.net/dr/dr7.jpg, (or if you prefer it completely intact) http://www.kellyscars.net/dr/jerrybike.jpg



albeit minus Jerry's chick. Thats all I am sayin'.

That thing would have been ridable in like two hours, dude...F$%^#%^&$% insurance!!!!!

KFD

[M-Six Hundred]

you guys should car pool! suckers!

[tjmphx]

I hear you, when given an expected time of pick-up, a week goes by and havent even seen her. Id be pissed too. My dad runs a car dealership here in town, and if they pulled something like that(no you cant see your vehical) they would be in some ____. Thats the part that gets me. Its missing just the plastic, they cant push it to the door for a quick peek.:confused:

[M-Six Hundred]

Hi Output FTL!!!

[RICH22]

no the shady thing is not letting him see the progress.. and telling him 2 weeks.. i had a little place do the work that i couldnt.. they did the estimate ( 2days ) and the work (3weeks) and it only took that long because they ordered the plastics and that was how long a set of 97 was out. i went down once a week and talked to the guy working on it and look at my bike and was shown what they were doing. 2 things hi output could do to keep bad reviews or upset clients from happening... communication, if you are too busy to communicate to your clients all you are going to get are bad reviews... 2nd let people come in and see progress.. unless you are hiding something there is no reason not to

[ballisticn8]

no the shady thing is not letting him see the progress.. and telling him 2 weeks.. i had a little place do the work that i couldnt.. they did the estimate ( 2days ) and the work (3weeks) and it only took that long because they ordered the plastics and that was how long a set of 97 was out. i went down once a week and talked to the guy working on it and look at my bike and was shown what they were doing. 2 things hi output could do to keep bad reviews or upset clients from happening... communication, if you are too busy to communicate to your clients all you are going to get are bad reviews... 2nd let people come in and see progress.. unless you are hiding something there is no reason not to

dead on rich... if he had called me and said its taking longer for such and such reasons cool, i get that, dont stonewall me and put me off you know? if i tell a client something will take a certain amount of time to get done and i am behind shouldnt i be responsible for letting them know the reason its behind and the status of it? my dad runs his own business and has since i was a little kid (i can see some of our older members laughing here since i'm still 24) and i know good and bad business practices. it doesnt matter how good your work is if you dont communicate with your customers.

[R SIC]

age doesn't matter, as i just proved 2 24ish year olds that they are r tards

[RICH22]

Yeah and when a client calls and calls wanting to know why things are slow.. you would think that would be the client to call back and explain, hey we had some trouble with the paint guy he is taking longer than normal.. and we are double checking all the parts on your bike to get it 100% that would have satisfied me

[KFD]

age doesn't matter, as i just proved 2 24ish year olds that they are r tards

This coming from the kid who slept in the back of English class, and beating off in the locker rooms wishing he had a chance with Desdemona while I was discussing the economic boom of the North during Reconstruction at ASU.
Nice try though, and way to stay on topic, sir...:hattip

KFD

[M-Six Hundred]

Yep. But dodging gives him a bad rep.

[SAK]

this is why i bought a zuk. never have to worry about it crashing

[AZIROC]

i feel ya. i was told 2 weeks, but prob just 10 days for my paint job.... 6 weeks later i was SO pissed after the excuses and "it will b done tomorrow" lines i always heard. but all that was gone when i got the bike back. but afer week 4 i just went down there unexpectingly and went to see the bike for myself. and instead of going up front, i went around back so he didnt know i was there right away. maybe u should do the same thing. just go and walk in. G/L with getting ur bike back, but im sure when u do, ull be glad its back and not care it took only 2 weeks.

[R SIC]

This coming from the kid who slept in the back of English class, and beating off in the locker rooms wishing he had a chance with Desdemona while I was discussing the economic boom of the North during Reconstruction at ASU.
Nice try though, and way to stay on topic, sir...:hattip

KFD

i slept in english class yet still more educated in the ways of grammar, damn i'm good

this is why i bought a zuk. never have to worry about it crashing

lmao

[SAK]

lmao

sorry...













or blowing up!!!!

[R SIC]

hey fuck you!

[SAK]

hey fuck you!



hahaah sorry


:p does that help

[R SIC]

and that's why you're putting yamaha parts on your zuk huh

[SAK]

nothing that has to do with my motor just a peice of plastic

[R SIC]

still a yamaha part

[SAK]

im sure if you ran some zuk parts you would have not gone caboom

[Jsquared]

im sure if you ran some zuk parts you would have not gone caboom

I don't know about that the Suzuki parts would have not worked cause they would have known they were installed in an inferior machine.

[R SIC]

i thought the FI doesn't work on the zuks either?

[Jsquared]

i thought the FI doesn't work on the zuks either?

The FI was a warranty free repair it works fine after it's repaired. It's actually the set valve that fails not the whole FI system.

[SAK]

I don't know about that the Suzuki parts would have not worked cause they would have known they were installed in an inferior machine.

hahaha self destruct mode
i thought the FI doesn't work on the zuks either?
nah it still runs a lot better than your bike does.

[MooseDrool]

heres what i know. Usually the insurance company will audit the work if A) They think the charges are outragous B) They have done business with this shop before and the cost always seems high C) After they sent him the check he contacted them and needed more money D They have done work with him before and he has contacted them for more money before on other jobs.

The only reason he would get pissed that they are auditing them is if they had something to hide like over charging for example. If you want i can go down there with you. You would be surpirse how quickly i can get answers when you push the right buttons

[RICH22]

no beating people up moose... nate is still a cripple and wouldnt be able to help

[Blue Devil]

I have to agree with Nate. Scotty at Hi Output has always cut me deals on parts and such but i never had him do any work for me. I know scotty well enough that when i was working at Cycle Gear and our tire machine was down, I went to Scotty and he let me use his shops tire machine.

When i went in the other week and he wouldn't let me look at the bike, I was a bit confused. First off I saw my tank sitting on the ground in the office. If the bike parts were off at paint, don't you think they would need to paint the tank too? The tank was perfect and not harmed one bit, it wasn't being replaced, so if infact the parts were at paint then why was the tank at Hi Output? Second thing that made me question it is I have been inside the shop, I have used his tools, and now suddenly I wasnt even allowed in the shop? Trying to hide something? Finally the last thing that struck me as odd was the fact that when I was talking to Scotty one of his guys came in with a stock GSXR pipe and was asking how to make the exhaust... Well welling as how I was there I explained exactly how to do it.

If the bike is done then:
1) Why is the unpainted tank at the shop when the "plastics are out for paint"?
2) How come I suddenly cant see inside the shop when in the past i have used tools and all there?
3) If the bike was done how come the new exhaust still wasn't done? A bike with no exhaust is not a done bike...

[ballisticn8]

cripple my ass dude, lol, i cant straighten my arm 100% but fapping has helped the strength come back some... i'm going there after work, probably around 5pm'ish so i can see what they are doing since they told me back on may 1st the bike was done and just waiting on paint to finish the fairings.

[RICH22]

ok beat them up moose

[M-Six Hundred]

what happened with this?

[RICH22]

nate said last night that it should be done today

[ballisticn8]

yeah, hopefully its done today, i went down there yesterday and he said the fairings were done and it should be put together today. they still dont have the exhaust back on it yet though and i dont know if a dude there was joking but as i was talking to scott he came in and said he blew up another bike in the back and asked scott what he should do, scott told him you dont do anything, thats why i didnt hire you, thats why you dont work here... that kinda scared me knowing my bike is there.

[Jsquared]

yeah, hopefully its done today, i went down there yesterday and he said the fairings were done and it should be put together today. they still dont have the exhaust back on it yet though and i dont know if a dude there was joking but as i was talking to scott he came in and said he blew up another bike in the back and asked scott what he should do, scott told him you dont do anything, thats why i didnt hire you, thats why you dont work here... that kinda scared me knowing my bike is there.

wow yeah I would never go to this place from what I am hearing now.

[ballisticn8]

still no bike or call, fuckers :cuss... i need to go down there with about 40 people and some firepower...

[Aaron3XH]

only if you want to battle in court also! I know some good lawyers for the aftermath! i feel you though that ish sucks Nate!

[M-Six Hundred]

Wow Nate whats his excuse?

[ballisticn8]

hell if i care man. i walked into the shop tuesday afternoon, he tells me plastics are done, bike should be put back together tomorrow, day after at the latest. lets see, tuesday and day after is wednesday, or day after that at the latest is thursday. its 7pm and still no fucking bike :cuss

[RICH22]

yeah i'd be just a bit pissed

[M-Six Hundred]

same here. Sucks man.

[AZIROC]

haha, sounds like my painter. took him almost 10 days to put my bike back together and when i went to pick it up, i helped putting it back together STILL, and even then he didnt have alot of the correct bolts in. bu atleast me helping got the bike out of there that day...

[MooseDrool]

any word?

[ballisticn8]

nothing yet, i'm calling in 20 minutes at 1230 to see what is going on... if you tell someone something will be done as a shop owner you should stand by your word and have the bike ready...

[ballisticn8]

called, no answer, left a message...

[Blue Devil]

keep callin.... id blow their phone up

[ballisticn8]

you know it, i'm calling back at 130...

[M-Six Hundred]

Everyone boycott High Output!!!!

[ballisticn8]

called again, no answer, didnt leave a message this time though :banghead

[RICH22]

are they open friday's?

[MooseDrool]

are they open friday's?

are you serious whos not open on fridays

[Libretto]

I would go down there. I would also fill out a BBB report as well

[M-Six Hundred]

http://www.arizonabbb.org/file_a_complaint.asp?nav_id=10

[craqhead]

After seein' the before and after paint, Nate, I think some props are in order...
That pearl looked sharp!

I gotcha with the communication thing, tho....just tell me the truth.

They must be doin' some things right,
Friday afternoon was like a mini-DR convention over there....

[RICH22]

are you serious whos not open on fridays

yeah actually.. alot of shops i know that specialize in atv's watercraft and sport bikes.. aren't open thurs/friday so they can be open sat/sun when everyone breaks there shit from the weekend

[ballisticn8]

okay, my main deal with hi output was the lack of communication from them as stated by craqhead and myself. dont tell a customer two weeks to fix the bike then take three and a half and not explain why. dont tell me fairings are at paint on may 1st when the tank is still laying outside your office on may 8th, how do you repaint fairings without the tank? also heat shield on the left has the wrong bolt in it, its too long, bolt missing from the seat, vortex rearsets installed on the very top level were causing the shiftrod to rub against the frame making it almost impossible to shift back down into second and first... tail section wasnt painted because he "ran out of time", two weeks at paint? i do have to say the paint looks amazing, the pearl is fucking tits, he put what looks like a hot bodies undertail on it too so i now have integrated led turn signals in the undertail which is a really nice addition. over all i have to say if he wouldve just communicated to me what was going on with the bike and not keep giving me completion dates that came and went i wouldve been fine with the shop.

[M-Six Hundred]

So you got it back ?

[ballisticn8]

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/ballisticn8/r6.jpg

[Diablito]

wow no offense nate but they did a horrible job... did they even paint the tank doesn't even match the stripe line and wtf did they do with that exhaust??

[Jsquared]

wow no offense nate but they did a horrible job... did they even paint the tank doesn't even match the stripe line and wtf did they do with that exhaust??

+1 Nate you better take that back there dude. That pipe is way too long and the tank totally doesn't match.

[Blue Devil]

looks alright... but come on i was an amature painter and i was able to tape off better lines then that... as for the exhaust? Holy ugly shit batman

[M-Six Hundred]

Nate take it back quick. And report him to your insurance for not completing it correctly.

[R SIC]

stripes are even going in the wrong direction...

http://a729.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/59/l_1fe61518c0d938e1a04f841af399a840.jpg

[sunburnedaz]

I would not take it back. I would go to someone who would paint it up the way you want it for a fair price. I would not want the bike to be down for that long again.

[ballisticn8]

sunburned has it right, he took three and a half weeks to get it to where it is at this point... did anyone else notice the tail doesnt have any blue to it at all, just the white pearl. i am starting my second job and need to have my bike for transportation to and from it so i cant afford to have my bike away from me any more. with the bills from my accident and the house we have being built i'm kinda fucked. :(

[RICH22]

are you at least getting those things that we went over at the track? like the seat etc?

[ballisticn8]

seat is covered, i got a detailed estimate and he didnt quote the insurance for bar ends or replacing the stomp grip, so, shit out of luck on that. on the seat he ordered the wrong one, the new seat is on the way...

[RICH22]

shitty.. i am pretty sure he just pocketed a lot of that money.. one of the main reasons it would have been good to do most yourself.. could have had it all done CORRECTLY.. and i bet SEABASS would have painted it for a good price.. AND quick!

[ballisticn8]

i tried getting the insurance to let me do it, even straight asked the guy can i do the work so i can save money on the labor charges? they straight told me it wasnt allowed cause i have a loan on the bike...

[sunburnedaz]

i tried getting the insurance to let me do it, even straight asked the guy can i do the work so i can save money on the labor charges? they straight told me it wasnt allowed cause i have a loan on the bike...


Yup loan = bike has to go to the shop.
Owned out right = Nate gets check for damage and can go where ever he wants or just keep the money.


Unfortunately he did what we are all supposed to do and got screwed. He went to a place that came highly recommended by many people on the forums but the place didn't do him right.

[RICH22]

oh yeah.. having a loan.. damn.. well high output gets even less of a approval after you got the stuff.. i mean the bike runs.. everything is straight.. it looks good.. just doesn't look like b4 ya know.. give them a failing grade

[RICH22]

wish you could have switched shops :( i know the painters atv that did most the work on my other bike worked with me to get things as cheap as they could and of course i owned the bike so i got the check... he did the estimate high, and i paid him for what he did and kept the rest

[M-Six Hundred]

I would still report him to your insurance agency

[ballisticn8]

yeah, between lack of communication and some of the little things i dont think i'll be going back there. the paint lines and extended exhaust aside, the pearl white is awesome as it literally fucking glows in the light and the hot bodies integrated leds undertail was a nice addition too.

what really irked me was the rearset positioning that caused the shift rod to rub... its not cool cause it made it almost impossible to shift in 1st and 2nd gear, and it took me a little bit to actually figure out why shifting was hard. the wrong size bolt on the heat shield (its too long) and a missing bolt from the seat are minor issues but annoying when you consider how much money they made off the insurance and me.

[RICH22]

yeah its funny he quoted it HIGH so you could get more money.. and then he says he didnt quote somethings haha what a dick

[Jsquared]

Dude I would demand a rental car and they fix your bike. They didn't fix your bike to your original standing. That is BS Nate you need to stand up for yourself and not just take this in the ass. All the little things add up man. They did a shitty job and I would make sure it was done right.

[Red Rose]

Respond to my PM's punk!

yeah, between lack of communication and some of the little things i dont think i'll be going back there. the paint lines and extended exhaust aside, the pearl white is awesome as it literally fucking glows in the light and the hot bodies integrated leds undertail was a nice addition too.

what really irked me was the rearset positioning that caused the shift rod to rub... its not cool cause it made it almost impossible to shift in 1st and 2nd gear, and it took me a little bit to actually figure out why shifting was hard. the wrong size bolt on the heat shield (its too long) and a missing bolt from the seat are minor issues but annoying when you consider how much money they made off the insurance and me.

[ballisticn8]

lol, sorry laila, i was actually getting some work done, pm's read, reponses sent!

[azsunsetangel]

As with everyone else, report it to your insurance, demand a rental car, and that someone else finishes the bike correctly! Did you request Hi Output do your work? I would be absolutely pissed and demanding it be corrected!

[MooseDrool]

if they were already auditing his work they definetly need to know this. i would report it to them now. and just tell your insurance this is your only form of transpo and they will have to give you a rental car

[RICH22]

nate it is pretty much up to you.. but if you do report it to your insurance.. i would ask that another shop do the work.. because think of it going back to this shop and them just fucking you in a way you wouldnt know for months ya know?

[Jsquared]

nate it is pretty much up to you.. but if you do report it to your insurance.. i would ask that another shop do the work.. because think of it going back to this shop and them just fucking you in a way you wouldnt know for months ya know?

true that

[ballisticn8]

:banghead... damn, i need the bike for transpo from my primary job to my second job, and a car wont work, bike = carpool lane and the only way i can make it in time from one job to the other... the paint isnt as off as it looks when you look at it from a better angle but the lines are still off... damnit, this sucks... :(

i dont know if my insurance will cover a rental cause i didnt need the second job till my accident and when we signed on the house so i have very little in the form of coverage options (ie: rental car) to keep the cost low.

[M-Six Hundred]

Call your insurance and tell them whats going on and see what they want to do. Don't even contact Hi Output yet.

[Jsquared]

Call your insurance and tell them whats going on and see what they want to do. Don't even contact Hi Output yet.

+1

[MooseDrool]

if the insurance company was auditing them that means they have already lanched an investigation. you need to report it to them that way your rates dont get raised due to them over charging

[Blue Devil]

im with everyone else... plus i have a million in a half pictures of the bike before the accident to show the insurance. Theres a big difference between before and after. When they fix it, it needs to be better then before according to the insurance. Becides paint flaws, i dont think missing bolts, missing stomp grip, and a f-d up exhaust would pass as an "improvement.

Good to know a back yard welder like me can put out a better product then Hi Output... As the the overall bike, the paint may be nice... but that was the only word outsourced by hi output... everything Hi Output did was sub par...

F minus in my book.

[ballisticn8]

i have a message with my agent to talk to him to see what can be done... jerry, if you could email me some of those pics you have i'd like to have those available...

ballisticn8@gmail.com


as for the exhaust he said you're backyard job was a weld and pound method that wasnt good and didnt properly secure the exhaust on the bike, yet it didnt fall off when i wrecked, the paint he said he "ran out of time" and didnt have time to let it dry/cure properly to apply stomp grip to the tank because i was rushing him... :banghead

[Jsquared]

excuses excuses

[Blue Devil]

my "weld and pound" method lol. Obviously he hasnt worked with metal that much. That or hes like god and bends his metal using his magical brain powers. Steel is very maluable, and to change shape you need to use different tools. He obviously isn't open minded to one off modifications. Doesnt speak very much for a shop owner. Sounds more like a by the book mechanic then a creative mechanic. His worker coudn't even figure out how i did it so i explained it. There 'tards there.

PS My pipe made 2hp more on Adrenalines Dyno then the Yosh full system i had on there. It was no "hack job" if thats what they think it was. If they refer to my method as weld and pound then theirs must be shit and flush

[Blue Devil]

excuses excuses

+1... I feel bad about telling you to go there, but i guess we all learned a valuable lesson. If i ever need anything i know where I probably wont go. Some places are good for parts and simple labor. Others are good for big jobs.

[KFD]

Dude, French at Cycle Works. He is the only person I know of with a shop out here that has records at Daytona!
KFD

[Blue Devil]

Yea because no one from here races in Daytona lol. Marc up at North Valley used to hold the track records at Firebird on his 1000rr. Last i heard a nonlocal ama guy beat some but i dont think all. I would trust my bike with Ladezma any day... but hes a honda dealer lol

the only time i will say this... lucky honda people

[mcdwf398]

Damn this sounds shitty. Scott came highly recommended by my friend at Kawi Superstore. I set up an appointment to tune my bike on thursday. But that was before i read this. I got the impression that the guy knew his shit.

Has anyone else ever had an experience with Hi Output doing repair work?

Can they at least run a Power Commander and a Dyno Jet in conjunction properly?

Guess I will let everyone know how that goes.

[hellion_locdogg]

Dane Cook FTW!!!! Sup homie?

[M-Six Hundred]

Has anyone else ever had an experience with Hi Output doing repair work?

Can they at least run a Power Commander and a Dyno Jet in conjunction properly?

Guess I will let everyone know how that goes.

Don't do it man!

[RICH22]

they can probably run the dyno just fine.. they dont have to order it haha

[M-Six Hundred]

I would not trust them with my bike.

[Aaron3XH]

speaking of Dyno's does anyone know where to get a good deal on this? i paid way too much last time, and I need it done again!

[Jsquared]

Damn this sounds shitty. Scott came highly recommended by my friend at Kawi Superstore. I set up an appointment to tune my bike on thursday. But that was before i read this. I got the impression that the guy knew his shit.

Has anyone else ever had an experience with Hi Output doing repair work?

Can they at least run a Power Commander and a Dyno Jet in conjunction properly?

Guess I will let everyone know how that goes.

I wouldn't go there for anything bro but that is just me. I would go to Sun Valley Cycles they are a supporting vendor too :)

[MooseDrool]

Damn this sounds shitty. Scott came highly recommended by my friend at Kawi Superstore. I set up an appointment to tune my bike on thursday. But that was before i read this. I got the impression that the guy knew his shit.

Has anyone else ever had an experience with Hi Output doing repair work?

Can they at least run a Power Commander and a Dyno Jet in conjunction properly?

Guess I will let everyone know how that goes.

i have heard they have screwed up some maps because they use the same sensor for bikes that they use for 2 strokes

[M-Six Hundred]

yeah see fuck that. Hi Output FTL

[Blue Devil]

For Dyno work i would recommend North Valley Honda... im sure they will tune different makes and models. Just call and ask for Mark. He runs the shop and he is one of the top racers in the valley. He knows his way around sport bikes and hes a really nice guy

[Aaron3XH]

yeah thats where i went the first time N. Valley they charged me upwards of $250, I've been told that is quite high now, does anyone know somewhere that does a good job that doesn't cost quite as much! I'll call the Sun Valley Cycles guys!

[ballisticn8]

For Dyno work i would recommend North Valley Honda... im sure they will tune different makes and models. Just call and ask for Mark. He runs the shop and he is one of the top racers in the valley. He knows his way around sport bikes and hes a really nice guy

Mark Ledesma?

Actually Mark Ledesma left there and is now at Euro Motorsports in scottsdale... but he does do good work. He tuned my race bike! :thumbup

[R SIC]

Mark Ledesma?

thanks, i was gonna have to search for that haha

[mcdwf398]

Dane Cook FTW!!!! Sup homie?


Wut up you buffalo ridin sob.:thumbup

[Blue Devil]

:thumbup
Sweet thanks, didnt know that